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hi i'm mike massimino we've been

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following along with the astronauts who

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are going to fly the next shuttle

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mission to the international space

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station what you are about to see is the

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crew practicing for their mission the

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team that is responsible for training

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them and get a sense of what it's like

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to fly the shuttle this is scs-130

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behind the scenes

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george zamka the commander of sts

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sts-130

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i've just realized i'm sorry you're a

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marine corps guy right and scorch is a

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marine corps both you went to the naval

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academy okay right and now you're one

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after the other is marine corps excited

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about this yeah there's something i want

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to say about it actually i'm the third

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marine commander in the road because

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that's right

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we had cj

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all right

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and

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we had doug hurley who flew before that

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so actually we've had five marines fly

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and run

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up on the last uh space shuttle missions

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that we've had so it's it's been pretty

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big for us and pretty exciting and and

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core is small everybody knows everybody

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so uh there's a lot of excitement

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certainly we're excited and then the

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folks that we flew with are also excited

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so it's really really been neat on the

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end of the run though so it'll be a

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little while before the uh the next

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marine flies

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you had a nice run there so that's a

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great route

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and i'm sure to marine corps very proud

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okay here we go all right very good

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anything else george no sir all right

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thanks for letting us in i know you're

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busy you better you're calling over here

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for you probably got a lot of stuff to

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do but thanks for letting us in and uh

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sharing some of the time with us thanks

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for coming by all right

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what are you doing what's your role

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during this are you working robotics

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today

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on node three activation

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environmental control systems inside of

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appreciate you letting us uh speak to

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you good luck with the rest of the sun

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okay

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it's like mumbo jumbo

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what is that navigation system

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data processing which is like your

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that's important stuff yes to get you

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back to earth all right

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very important stuff i don't know same

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driver sam schreiber

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all right from long island new york from

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long island where in long island glencoe

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oh that's nice over there yeah they

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wouldn't even let me into that area when

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i was a kid no you're blocked now no

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they weren't yeah they would they would

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they would see me come and you know they

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would be like no go back to where you

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belong uh

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flight control guidance and propulsion

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all right so how did you get here from

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glen cove new york this is interesting

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one school to the other and then which

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school uh unc maryland at the university

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of florida wow okay

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got an internship and started working

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here full time afterwards wow so you're

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very interested in nasa growing up

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just like i was except

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like you know about 100 years after me

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apparently but all right so you like

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what you're doing i love what i do you

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miss new york

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every day you are you early yeah you

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going there for the holidays uh no i'm

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getting married in three weeks so next

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year you are really in italy in three

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weeks so what the heck is

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italy new

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you're going italy for your honeymoon

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yeah where in italy are you going uh

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rome florence you know when are you

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going to be there over new year's okay

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we're going to be there i'm going to be

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there in two weeks yeah okay we're

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heading out and we wait two weeks i'll

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be there yeah i'm gonna anyway okay well

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that's cool so you're getting married

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that's big woody and where are you

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getting married down here

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so you're you're your fiance is from

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texas so you're never going back to new

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york are you we'll see what happens yeah

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you're gonna be stuck

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all right all right well thanks very

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much who else we got over here

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we got rob

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we got here george robin robin

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rob what's your last name robin

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phoenix phoenix enix

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phoenix but it's enix with an e okay

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and what do you got going here robbie

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shuttle calm instructor so uh

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she breaks account she makes sure we

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can't talk to each other or

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right and then we gotta figure out how

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to fix it okay so during this sim you're

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probably going to do that to them at

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some point right they're not going to be

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able to talk to each other until you

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send us george said they're going to

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have to try to figure this out

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right it's the most important system

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which is the most important so here if

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you can talk to the ground then they can

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fix it for you right that's the thing

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you want to be able to talk if you can't

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you know if you can because then it

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becomes harder

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right you can't it's harder to write

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anything and you gotta figure everything

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out on your own a lot harder ten times

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harder when you can't talk to each other

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or talk to you

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it's good when you have all these like a

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thousand people down here helping you

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out as opposed to trying to figure it

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out on your own you guys can figure it

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out on your own of course

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we can figure most stuff out on your own

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but we're not a very big team they have

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a big team right knows exactly what's

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going on it's a lot but i was looking at

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space flight's an open book test and the

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people down here are part of the open

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book you ask them a question they they

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tell you the answer or they let you know

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what you need to know so so that's

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really important stuff all right

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who's our last guy over here dave

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systems

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dave denham what's it mean david it does

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mean a lot of things it's uh electrical

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hydraulics

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and pretty much anything else that

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nobody wants to claim we get stuck with

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okay so it's

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it's lots of stuff it's like every

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everything yeah just about just about

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all that stuff so you're going to give

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them different failures as well today

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can you tell us what you're going to do

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they won't figure it out great example

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let's see we're going to you know have

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much confidence in these guys what's up

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we're going to kill some cooling and

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then we're going to leak some atmosphere

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into the cabin and then we're going to

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short out a main bus this is just on one

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sim yeah on one run maybe i'm not done

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yet okay go ahead keep going then we're

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gonna um take away their vehicle cooling

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break their payload

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are you born in england because you also

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was born in the north of england you're

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born and your dad your dad was from

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england right but your mom was american

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english so how did you end up in the in

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well my my father came here to business

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school in this in the 60s oh my god when

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there weren't business schools in europe

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he liked it so eventually we ended up

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staying eventually ended up staying

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because you're also from new york i

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lived in new york for for many years all

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right and you

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for many years but it didn't affect your

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accident see you and i have

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we both speak english if i could be

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brave enough to say that right it's like

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i missed it sorry mike i said we both

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speak english we do yes after fashion

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with the what after a fashion after i

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don't even know what that means but he

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said so you're uh

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but i mean my accent's a little bit

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different than yours but we've you spent

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a lot of time in a year but you weren't

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polluted i spent holidays in new york i

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spent most of my time in london so can

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you do a new york accent if you're in

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new york not really i don't want to get

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but you were in new york for quite a

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while yes my family lived that many

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years right

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okay

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and and you and i know each other for a

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long time man did you know that george

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no i didn't know how long nick and i

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know each other oh it's it's something

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like 20 years it was over 20 years

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we went to graduate school mike mike and

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i shared an office at mit oh right i met

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nick in 1989 right yeah and our on our

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we sat this far apart driving this far

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apart for each other and we became good

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friends george and this is back when

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mike was funny i was funny back there

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imagine being funny oh i'm boring now

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i was younger i was still in my 20s i've

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heard a lot of nick's stories but

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there's if you don't mind sharing one

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when you and when you played the timpani

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when you were in

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do you mind sharing that story because

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you know kids that he had this big fancy

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astronaut in his getup but you were

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going to school as a you know in england

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just happened right i played did you

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orchestrate the school yes okay so would

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you mind telling us if you have a minute

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i know you've been no and uh we are

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playing the national anthem

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school songs the national anthem of

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england yes at that time school in

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england so that's the uh the english

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national anthem which is what wasn't it

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it's called god save the course god save

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the queen very important song big song

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very important

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and uh

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i was one of the percussion sections

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remember the percussion section

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i had the symbols the big symbols symbol

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big ones so it's it's it may not be the

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most important instrument in the

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orchestra but it's just about the most

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visible because you stand up and you

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crash them together like this and at the

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time are you supposed to crash those

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things i would say it's the most

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important problem

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and in fact they start off the song yeah

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and uh we rehearsed this many times and

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it always gone well

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and it it went on the downbeat the

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conductor's downbeat of his uh his uh

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wand yeah what they call them

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i think thank you because

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why would be like if he's a magician

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like harry potter's band they have but i

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think

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that's probably your guys a little bit

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like hogwarts but it was it wasn't

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england so i really don't know maybe it

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was a one but

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so uh

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on the day

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with uh churchill's daughter

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at the school songs and it was it was a

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very important day

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it was in honor of churchill this set of

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this uh performance was it his birthday

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or something was the church's birthday i

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forget whether it was okay but it was an

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honor of church wow church was a big guy

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it was important yeah this is a big big

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thing

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so uh

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on the day i'm watching the conductor

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very carefully and the song builds up

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to the point at which all the

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instruments kick in

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and so you have to wait for the

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conductor you don't know when it's going

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to start yeah and instead of a nice

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crisp

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baton wave yeah i got something that

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went like this

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and i i wasn't quite sure when to crash

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them so i didn't crash the symbols you

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did it on the big day

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you did not press the symbols for god

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save the queen

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and churchill's daughter was in the it

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was in attendance is that what it was

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this is a big deal it was and you were

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how old

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i was 15 15 years old old enough to be

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embarrassed

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did you get in trouble afterwards did

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the conductor come see it did you run

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leave is that why you came to america

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that's why i immigrated all right

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see stuff like we talk like that that's

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how we talk here in the space copy that

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you know that kind of thing you watch

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as a capcom yes and uh and you're

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actually talking to a live crew now well

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yeah they're uh they're live in the

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simulator

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and uh gary is our flight director here

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and uh yeah they're over there we're

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over here we're practicing

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what we're going to do when we

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support them when they're flying in

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space hopefully in the beginning of

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february

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during these simulations do you ever

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forget that they're just in a metal box

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and you start thinking it's the real

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deal no

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not really i mean we i when i think of

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you know we're practicing for when

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they're actually going to do it and you

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work the same way and i think you know

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you there's i think there's a bit of

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difference between the real thing and

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the sim but

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uh you know you get practice here it

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prepares you for the real thing but it's

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not nothing quite like

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the real real experience of going for a

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real flight

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so

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i'm just saying that talking to my ear

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right now that people go ahead

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i space stuff you can ignore them i

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think right here i'm talking about it

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it's fine

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i'm not just taking video i'm working as

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a uh

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as a capcom

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which

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communicated right

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but we don't call the thing a capsule

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anymore right right we call it a

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spacecraft so they say capcom is

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spacecraft communicator right

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we should be like a spacecom or

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something shouldn't we

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this is beyond our pay great how did you

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get into this game how'd you get to do

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this cause this is a pretty cool job i

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mean astronaut's a pretty cool job the

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flight director is a pretty cool job how

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did you get into how did this happen

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well um

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straight out of college here's a flight

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controller actually sitting in the

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console you can see right behind me

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enco console

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you can see that's like i should know

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that he's awake thank goodness or else

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yeah all right they're responsible for

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the uh communications asset and the

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video systems on the orbiter and all the

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commanding and telemetry okay so i

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actually did that job for

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about 14 years right out of college so

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you get out of college and rhetoric you

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started training to go and that's pretty

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cool

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that's a lot of responsibility

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to college

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yeah

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up

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some missions worth over there

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and

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uh competed to become a flight character

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and got selected and so i've been

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fortunate enough to actually

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this would be my fourth mission as a

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shuttle flight director yeah

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so yeah

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a lot of years a lot of hard work but uh

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you know it paid off all right so what's

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going on now

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okay what are we doing here yeah i'm

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about to leisure actually you're going

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to leave no i'm just going to say okay

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sometime

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but it's a it's a debrief right all

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right so we're going to debrief out how

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did they do in the run they did pretty

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good they didn't screw everything up no

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no definitely they did good

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better than last time what's the number

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that it's

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they did good last night did even better

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this time